Gaul's all the same religion already and with my 12-finesse governor I can culture-convert a new province in just a couple years with the assimilation policy so I'm kind of wondering what the point is. But at that point I've already taken the AE, and I'll only be getting a fraction of the income from a territory I already own. Since I went Monarchy I've lost the ability to make tribes feudatories, so that's out, and I guess my only other option is to conquer a province and release it as a client. Except the Tribal Vassal I end up with can't be integrated, won't join my wars, and only gives me a piddly 6 manpower per month when I'm sitting on 90k and generating 300+ already. Found a small alliance in Normandy to beat up for a foothold, but even a small minor with half a province costs me 8-10 AE to eat, so I figured I'd vassalize for 4 instead and feed them to integrate later, EU4 style. All I have left expansion-wisr in my neck of the woods is to finish colonizing Ireland, so I've set my sights on Gaul. Personally I like to make an Africa and Asian super client states to start taking those areas without actually needing to keep forces there while I stay busy with the colonial areas and Europe/Russia/Middle East/etc.Playing my first game as Iceni it's around 500 and I've managed to unite Britain, go Monarchy, and form Pritannia. As admin effeciency is added in it becomes a fair bit quicker to directly take a dozen provinces or so ever few years.Īdmittedly using client state in times between coring sprees is hugely useful but since they are so unlikely to rebel it becomes more useful just to keep 2 or 3 super states to protect your holdings in far off regions from the super coalitions. Using a tech reduction strategy mixed with a decent ruler and about mid game you will start getting more MP (Around the time you can keep up 3 +3 advisors and keep PP above 50 to get a permnant min 7 points plus 2 from focus for 9 and hopefully above 12 with a half decent ruler.) than you can use, even when spamming buildings. Honnestly I've never liked diplo-annexing but with all the recent changes I feel it truly is starting to be not worth it. Vassal feeding can still be useful, but the old abusive game of getting tons of lands for a small fraction of the cost through vassal feeding has been gone for quite some time, not only the most recent patch. In my 1.8-1.9 Mamluks game I re-established the grand the grand Persian nation to its full size with all its cores minus two, which were alread in my posession, taking all the land from Qara Qoyunlu and the Timurids for next to no AE. And of course, if the vassal has core claims, you can also get around a lot of AE by giving those cores to the vassal. If you are facing possible troubles with rebels giving troublesome lands to your vassal is also a neat option. Also you might sometimes want to wall off from a treasured ally using a vassal so you do not get border friction penalties. Newly won provinces in another continent are way more useful if fed to a vassal that is based on the same continent, since he will not suffer the high overseas autonomy penalty. straightup annexing for yourself might be autonomy. It just takes a very long time and tons of points, even with a very high diplomatic relations modifier. There is no selling too many provinces, and there is no size limit as to annex a vassal or PU. It's just a matter of what you have more off/what you can let go off more easily. Diplomatic and administrative point costs are pretty much the same.
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